Team Fortress 2

[[OD]Renamon]

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c131/Alandolas/ODTF2.png

You are possibly wondering why this is here as the game is not really new. Well I got it around 3 months ago and the game is already 3 years old. For those who don't know, it is a team centered FPS game with a quite cartoony look. That is how it started out 3 years ago, but support from the developers (Valve) has not ceased at all , new maps, a few new game modes, new weapons, a random drop system.

As of right now we don't have a server, but a temporary is being in the works (Most certanly we can get a better server later) and should be up at around next week when I have more time to fiddle around with it. So finaly I pose the question for you guys/gals if anyone is interested in playing together with this fine game, the game regulary can be baught for a cheap price (via steam or retail, at least my area so we can always work something out) with the orange box. Also if you are interested please post a time that would best suit you next week :3

People Interested:
- Renamon
- Causa45 (When he gets a better net, has the game)
- Salrane
- Knuckles
- Dragon
- Jetix
- Uznare
- Jedi Mart
- Muzt4ng

[OD-Salrane]

Oh, that's just not fair. I will play this game with you guys, and I will love it.

[[OD]Renamon]

Oh, that's just not fair. I will play this game with you guys, and I will love it.

I'm glad to see that you seen the light, happy to have your support :3

[OD-Mr.Leo]

Wo-wo-wo-wo Why noone PM'd (or steam'd) me about this?!

I'm totally in, I love TF2, it's the most fun FPS to play online, I've had it for 6 months now and I think I've not seen all the official maps yet :icon_lol:

Write down my name in that list, sir.

[OD-Nachos]

In terms of a server, if you can get enough interest to get a division started, we'll set up a dedicated server once the SR dedicated server gets setup.

[OD-Mr.Leo]

Well, I got Four recruits from my clanless buddies who I play TF2 with!!!
They are from all around Latin America though, so bare with our crap english in the TF2 voice-chat :icon_lol:

If that rule about age is still up, they are all over 16, actually most of them are older than me. Ah except Luigi but I don't remember his age.

Shall I make them register here and post in this rollcall?

[OD-Nachos]

If you want the chance to start a division...yes :icon_biggrin:

[[OD]Renamon]

In terms of a server, if you can get enough interest to get a division started, we'll set up a dedicated server once the SR dedicated server gets setup.

Was thinking about such aswell, until then I might be able to bring up a 14 slot dedicated server (not 24/7 though).

Added you Knucks, thank you for the support

[[OD]-Dragon]

*engi voice*nope.

[OD_causa45]

If that rule about age is still up, they are all over 16, actually most of them are older than me. Ah except Luigi but I don't remember his age.

Shall I make them register here and post in this rollcall?

The rule with the 16 years is gone. Make them come to OD. ;)

Once I have good net, I'd love to kick in some dust.

[OD"eXtazY]

Sounds interesting...
I will check the prices here.

[OD-BLOODED-1]

The rule with the 16 years is gone. Make them come to OD. ;)

When did this happen? Lovely. The game is rated 17+ in the U.S.


w00t for future 10-12yr old clan members playing M rated games and contributing to our forums like only middle school kids can. Word games will be busy. :icon_rolleyes:

[OD-Nachos]

lol, come on now Blooded :P, where else can we get cheap laughs?

[OD-BLOODED-1]

lol I still have nightmares from my memories of CS:S with younglings screaming into their mics, if this will be the case in TF2 I won't be reinstalling it. Steam games have a tendency to make even adults difficult to deal with. :icon_lol:

[OD-iamKavalier]

ill have a crack at it.
if its not too late.

[[OD]Renamon]

When did this happen? Lovely. The game is rated 17+ in the U.S.


w00t for future 10-12yr old clan members playing M rated games and contributing to our forums like only middle school kids can. Word games will be busy. :icon_rolleyes:

Let us be honest, 90% of the people don't care about the ratings and as far as I know the HC can decide to keep a game restricted to certain ages like 16+ (but allow exceptions)

Also Jetix it is still not late at all.

[OD_causa45]

When did this happen? Lovely. The game is rated 17+ in the U.S.


http://obsidiandragon.net/forum/showpost.php?p=24774&postcount=34
http://obsidiandragon.net/forum/showpost.php?p=24833&postcount=35

[OD-BLOODED-1]

Renamon;25179']Let us be honest, 90% of the people don't care about the ratings


I'm a parent and I fall in the 10% most of the time. Some kids are more mature than others for sure, but all in all I find it a bad idea and have already made my displeasure known to UNI (not that he gives a damn). This community is nothing like it once was. Free games as divisions, so many new recruits that just happened to be the exact age that was required for joining. Word games the only daily used forum until recently, and now the joining age that people were most likely lying to bypass as it is, is removed. I mean C'mon, how many 16 year olds love Pokemon? This Clan is as dead as I have ever seen it in my tenure here. It saddens me and makes me not want to bother even turning on my PC anymore. We had squads in JK2 bigger than the entire current membership for gods sake. I may be getting old, but I remember our past membership and what this clan was like before. More of the same we've been getting or worse will not restore OD to what it was.

[OD-Nachos]

*cough*Starcraft*cough*

[[OD]Renamon]

I'm not saying that it is much better off now then it was before (cannot know for sure what it was like before JK3), neither did I say that it is good to disregard the game ratings.


new recruits that just happened to be the exact age that was required for joining. Word games the only daily used forum until recently, and now the joining age that people were most likely lying to bypass as it is, is removed.

If that many people is lying their way trough the rule then removing it will have no effect on the outcome. I don't like it either but that is still up to the HCs to bring up such a rule and we need to face the fact that most companies gear their games to the young audiance despite it getting Mature ratings (GTAs anyone?) and because of that it will have a lot of kids.

We cannot get OD back to what it was, life changes and the clan has to change aswell. Grumbling on the past gets us nowhere, we had been doing that for the past years, I would rather try to change on it then to just sit around and wait for it to die.

No offense I don't see how a free game that has a working division is worse of then the never made AVP division, just because something is free does not mean that it is crap (quality may lack but there are good free games out there).

[OD-BLOODED-1]

Renamon;25212']

No offense I don't see how a free game that has a working division is worse of then the never made AVP division, just because something is free does not mean that it is crap (quality may lack but there are good free games out there).



AvP sucked, that is why there was no division. Nobody even tried to start a division when it was released, so I wouldn't call it failed as it never had leadership etc.. Did I mention AvP btw? my question about the free game issue is the type of system users have that play those games. I see few people that play those or old games playing new titles. Are most of our members capable of playing something like Crysis 2 should we have a division for it? or even the sucky new AvP? Are they likely to be able to support new divisions, or will they continue to stick with what is free? Free entertainment is always nice, look at the coolness of Alien swarm, but keeping up with new games on the market keeps systems up to date if you upgrade from time to time. Most of these free or old games could run on a 10 year old system, and since these games are what I see most new recruits playing I wonder if we can expect them in new games as they are released?

This connects with age as well somewhat, as a parent I don't always want to spend tons of cash for a new system, nor am I always able to for my son, who thank god will be 18 in a few months and will be taking care of his own hobby after that. PC gaming used to be about staying up to date with hardware (actually this is what has probably hurt the genre to be honest). Parents are more likely to buy an Xbox 360 or PS3 than shell out for PC upgrades costing tons more on a regular basis, leaving members 16+ more likely to have the means to keep up to date as they are of an age to have employment. I spend time on a few other forums (just boards populated by older gamers, not clans) that I have been part of for six years, and the difference in community and topic types is refreshing. they remind me of OD in the old days, though back then the recruit age was 13, we had a good balance then. Younger members can contribute quite well at times, but maturity level is an issue that is all too often faced when dealing with them, and that opinion comes from nearly five years as a SLC, and over seven as an OD member, I doubt that opinion will change as my own experiences have proven this in my view.

[OD-Uznare]

Uh, hi. I'm a friend of Leo's (OD-Knuckles in the forums) and I'm totally up for TF2.

Bonk!

[OD_Jedi Mart]

Greetings

I am glad to see OD members playing games together and also the idea to make even a division, i might get the game after the summer and join the group to play a game together with old friends.
It would be great to see a new division again in OD, with the age rule removed freedom of OD membership is the right of all again, the warm home of Obsidian Dragon offers comfort to what ever age and nationality as the Dragon selects its members not by its abilities nor age but by their choices.

May there be any help needed, i will be here to help.

[OD'newNewton]

Hi members!
As i read this (http://www.obsidiandragon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=826&page=3) post of causa i thought if its good, that everyone can recruit young persons. By that i think at the problem that young members maybe are not mature enough to be in a community like we now are.
The problem is that noone wouldn't grant his recruit HM because he is not mature...
Maybe every new possible recruit under the 16 years should be approved by the HC or an TL.
How do you think about that?
Greetings, Johnny!
http://www.obsidiandragon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=1112&page=2

I posted this in our TM member thread.

[OD_causa45]

It's good to see how my division is seen in your eyes, Blooded. Maybe you should take a look in our forums and then you will know how much work many of us put in this project. Useless work? Hmm, being the only division (very) successfully online atm, I doubt that. I am very sad to read such harsh words for days and hours of work. Makes me wonder if Obsidian Dragon is what it used to be, a friendly community where you can expect help from anybody. By the way, if anybody still has plans to create a division, I'd be happy to help out with the (useless) experience that I can show.

[OD'newNewton]

It's good to see how my division is seen in your eyes, Blooded. Maybe you should take a look in our forums and then you will know how much work many of us put in this project. Useless work? Hmm, being the only division (very) successfully online atm, I doubt that. I am very sad to read such harsh words for days and hours of work. Makes we wonder if Obsidian Dragon is what it used to be, a friendly community where you can expect help from anybody. By the way, if anybody still has plans to create a division, I'd be happy to help out with the (useless) experience that I can show.

true..
The TM division is more then a group of some kids who load their game free...
btw..
http://de.xfire.com/communities/ods/
Look at the hours played! For your information, Trackmania United isn't free!
Only TM Nations is the free version.
As you can see: The most active Members are using a version which costs money.
In our division we have manny events and clan matches, we have manny active members.. Blooded, maybe you should load the free versionn of Trackmania and visit one of our practise sessions... You would think other.

[OD-iamKavalier]

count me in.

[OD-BLOODED-1]

It's good to see how my division is seen in your eyes, Blooded.

There is a near total lack of intelligent topics on the forums. Word games is the only public board that ever gets any posts, I see recruit after recruit coming into your division and yet nothing is ever posted with substance (at least outside your division boards). How about a news topic, game news, etc? No, it seems to only ever be fluff in word games. As for your division, I wouldn't have a problem with it but I suspect some of your recruits lied to get into OD when the age limit was in place. Nearly every single one of them happened to be 16, way too many to be coincidence, and I still remember you causing problems as Steve108. All that aside, your division is doing well, and I don't want to see it fail despite what you may think. I agree this is not the Clan it once was, in fact, it is a mere shadow of it's greatness, that is what pisses me off. Most of you were not here back then and so do not miss it. I actually hope your division succeeds Causa, but I feel that free games mostly attract very young members, and no matter who likes it or not, I disagree with the age limit removal. That will not change.

I have made a few edits to this post in the interest of making it clearer. I would prefer this topic get back on track rather than waste more time arguing over something that is not going to be resolved.

[OD_causa45]

We'll just agree to disagree. Back to the topic.

EDIT: I completely am aware of the fact that OD is not 1/10 of what it used to be, even when I joined, but I try to do something against it. I know, my way of leading a division is not really the way many elders like to see it or how it used to be when OD was big, but I really try my best and help will all possible effort, I swear!

Can we please put the steve108 story -ad acta- for good? I changed... Got older. I am 17 now, and I was... 13? 14? Thanks for your understanding.

[OD"eXtazY]

Woho I missed an interesting conversation here. Blooded please remember most of the TM member are german and young. They check the forums from time to time to see if there are any informations. Some of them post, some not as they think their english is to bad. But does this make a division bad?

I don't think so. You should be involved in something before talking about it. Our skype channel is busy almost 24/7. Our servers are up and running and people are playing, not only during practise saisons or events. We have our fun playing together, talking, or sharing any other interesting or funny stuff. It is like it is, some of them like digimon, some pokermon. Who cares? Does this make them stupid? Look at renamon, he is 24?! How would this bunch look like if all had the same interest?

And now please explain me how you think about it? What is the sense of this clan, the sense of a division? Posting in the forums and trying to look intelligent?

[OD-BLOODED-1]

Some varied topics outside of word games might be nice. They wouldn't have to be about rocket science, just something other than the last post is the winner. I will say this now, if your English is not perfect post anyway, nobody will mind, it is a second language after all. As for the age, the point was that these recruits were all supposed to be 16 as the rule was just removed, and as such I was expecting something more to look forward to, like more topics being put up and more activity in other boards.

I do find pokemon, digimon, bakugan, dragon ball z and the like intolerable, though I still let my 8yr old watch them as he likes them. Levi outgrew them all by 15, but that may be the exception for most and not the rule. Maybe because my generation only had the original Speed Racer and Voltron for anime it soured me to that style, or maybe at 34 I'm just an old grouch... you know that might be it.... Get off my lawn!

[[OD]Renamon]

I think we got sidetracked enough in this topic, there are thigns that I disagree with and some that I agree with. I don't like certain things that happened before and I miss the "old times" when I joined, but it is time to move on.

@Newnewton: Actualy we had soemthing similar like that back in the old JKA division, just that only Jedi Masters, Talon Leaders, Honoured Council and Academy Master Trainer (sort of Jedi Master 'leader') was allowed to recruit and lower ranked people could suggest people who they thought would be good OD material.

@Jetix: Thank you for the support

@Uznare: Thank you for the support and welcome to the clan, feel free to get to know others of our clan :3

@Jedi Mart: Thank you Mart.

[OD"eXtazY]

It costs me about 15 Eur new/sealed from UK. I will watch some gameplay trailers but you can count me in if you make a division.

[OD-Mr.Leo]

I can't point anything negative about TF2, the game is very well made but the most important thing nowadays: It is being updated and improved DAILY.
New maps are always free, new stuff is always free.

And there you have it, it's a 3 year old game with probably more players online than most games released in 2007, also, it has only gotten better with time, since now we have class updates, custom hats, custom weapons, lots of official maps added, over 360 achievements. W00T!

rofl I sound like a salesman.
But really, you will end up loving the game as much as we (all tf2 players!) do :icon_biggrin:

[OD_causa45]

I got it in my Steam list! :P Now only the internet, you know.

[OD-Muzt4nG]

Uhm...Hi there!

I grew up playing games like RE4, Silent Hill for the PS1 and watching ''violent'' cartoons or animes like Dragon Ball or Saint Seiya since I was like 3 (oh, I remember those days playing the DOOM demo in my uncle's W95 PC, LOL) and I came out pretty well =S... Nowadays kids are pretty stupid because some of the moral values that are learned at home are lost...

Sometimes when I'm in the bus I see some like 10 years-old kids saying things like ''Your mom is a *****'' or ''**** you *****'' or throwing things to the other cars... When I was their age I was pretty damn innocent, the worst thing I could do was staying up late watching SNL (lol)... That's because my parents educated me, not TV or the Internet...

Anyway... Count with me for TF2 ;D

[OD-FJ]

can we get a server for tf2 ?
would be pretty cool ^.^

[OD-Nachos]

Where are your tags and why do you only have 5 posts in a year?

[OD-FJ]

actually been very long time away. mart and some other guys know me pretty well ^.^
but that doesnt matter at the moment.
tags ? wth... dunno if i should wear them.

[OD-Nachos]

What do you mean you don't know if you should wear them?

[OD-FJ]

staying in OD or not.

[[OD]Renamon]

When I was still SA I had removed his tags because both him and Seboo removed them from Xfire and just left without a word.

[OD-FJ]

as i said, dunno if i should get em back on.
thinking about it for a long time

[OD"eXtazY]

Hey FJ :) How are you doing?
Welcome back.

[OD-FJ]

pretty good.
and how are you doing ?

can you put my tags back on rena ?
i want to take part in the tf2 district.

[OD:SchakalForge]

whoho welcome back fj^^

[OD"eXtazY]

Also fine, nice to see you are back.

[[OD]Renamon]

I cannot put your tags in cause I don't have the admin permissions anymore, but I have nothing against you joining the TF2 division. However I will mention one thing and that is to decide what you want, cause I will surely not like if you will just decide to suddenly go away again while you are in the TF2 division.

[OD-FJ]

that isnt my goal.
i want to have fun, like all members do.