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Speech pushed to Sunday
« on: October 06, 2017, 03:04:37 PM »
If you’re reading here tonight, it means you want answers. You’re here on your own time because you care about this Clan—and you want to make sure I care about it as much as you do. You want to make sure I’ll bring real solutions to the clan. Well, I’m not going to waste any of your time. My main focus is Unity.

This is the beginning of my speech but I had to put it on hold, due to talking to Rhotan, please stand by.
« Last Edit: October 06, 2017, 03:25:05 PM by OD-UNICRON »
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Re: Speech pushed to Sunday
« Reply #1 on: October 06, 2017, 03:07:58 PM »
I will be patiently waiting to hear what happens in regards to the clan after you have your chat with Rhotan. 

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Re: Speech pushed to Sunday
« Reply #2 on: October 08, 2017, 11:38:10 PM »
If you’re reading here tonight, it means you want answers. You’re here on your own time because you care about this Clan—and you want to make sure I care about it as much as you do. You want to make sure I’ll bring real solutions to the clan. Well, I’m not going to waste any of your time. My main focus is Unity.

This is the beginning of my speech but I had to put it on hold, due to talking to Rhotan, please stand by.
If you’re reading here tonight, it means you want answers. You’re here on your own time because you care about this Clan—and you want to make sure I care about it as much as you do. You want to make sure I’ll bring real solutions to the clan. Well, I’m not going to waste any of your time. My main focus is Unity.
Let’s start with “project bad apple” when the clan is unstable, unbalance or going in the wrong direction, this action is taken, so we may identify, of those that are impeding the course of this community, And the result was only one person, OD will continue it course to Unity, honor and like OD-RHOTAN says “Always be good company”.
Why is Obsidian Dragon web page and forum being so valuable to many of us? The answer is memories, and we want to honor those that shared their experience of having fun, respect, honor and much more, for example, Tikal found love in OD and there now married, that is so beautiful, another memory in the chapter of this community, you see… “Obsidian Dragon Clan” is not just a name, for many of us, it has substance, that’s why I want all of us who wear the tag to call our forum there main virtual home, and I don’t want anything to changed that, this is the course that I will stand for, for the honor and experience those that were here and those that are still here.
Final Fantasy 14 division is no longer recognized by this clan, that division fails to come home, And… I’m not going to explain the details in this forum.
There were many names that I left out, the detail would have been horrific to be posting our forum, so… let be bye gone, let us continue our journey.
« Last Edit: October 08, 2017, 11:42:36 PM by OD-UNICRON »
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Re: Speech pushed to Sunday
« Reply #3 on: October 09, 2017, 11:12:34 AM »
Greetings to all,

     For many years, I have belonged to Obsidian Dragon. Some of my fondest memories in MMO's are undoubtedly owed to that membership. Many a friend have I made, few enemies have I had to endure. There is one major shame that I have. OD-Hippie , a a dark point in my life, helped me keep a roof over my head and the lights on. I have never been able to repay that yet. And, I mention this as it is a hole in my soul which has to mend one day. My brotherly love for this individual is beyond reproach. I was ashamed that I have not been able to make amends. The truth is, I was homeless for a couple of days during that time. I had to get an apartment when the tax returns came in to provide for my family. And, since then, it has been nothing but the same with a vicious custody battle over my son. One day, I will make amends.

     The FFXIV Division was founded by myself and Apoktino. Apoktino became a member in Age of Conan through my request. A conversation about trust was held when Unicron took the helm from Hippie in the Division of FFXIV when I promoted Unicron to officer in that Division. That argument was settled with three words... "Respect your Clan". For a time, I was out of commission and Apoktino held the Division together and grew that Division. Thus, bringing more members to the Clan. The Age of Conan Division was the largest guild on server at the very least under my control and again, brought members to the clan. There are many ways to look at those members... a vast majority will enjoy the good company they are with, a few will try to subvert and divide, and even fewer will be of the caliber to lead divisions to prosperity and grow the Clan. Through Apoktino and Sinosis, another great member who was brought into the fold by Apoktino, we have experienced growth. These two have brought others into this Clan like Kayula and TIkall who I see as being strong proponents to the growth of whatever organization they belong to. Names that can be added to the list over the years... Krisium, Hassania, Badar, DocGrizzly, Brendokan, Budman, Vouna, Eleanore, Armati, Persecon.... the list is a long one. These fine people have been brought into this Clan through interaction with myself and Apoktino or through friends of those who have been brought into the fold. So many precious memories...

     Now, through operation "Bad Apples", the clan has been deprived of some of the key people who have worked hard to grow it. And, for what reason? They did not post on a website? They use Facebook? They did not want to transfer to Teamspeak to accommodate the STO Division? Apok and Sinosis have both been out of action recently due to surgeries... serious issues... not having a mole removed or their rectum resized... the latter of the two is now needed though because they got screwed viciously in my opinion. During their recovery they come home to the Clan to realize that they have been cast out like trash. Though Apok and myself have been at odds recently over "Unity" and the guild name in BDO... and while we are on that subject... Obsidian Dragon had all but pulled out of BDO with only a few left in it when we started populating a guild. The guild starts to get to a good size, now the Clan has an issue with the name of it not being in compliance with the Clan's "Unity" policy. After explaining that we will honor the Clan and change the name... having arguments the whole time of this explanation... time frames being demanded and what not... we changed the name. During this drama and a discussion with Unicron, I got promoted to SLC to join those who had lambasted me day prior. I immediately set forth on writing laws and protection for the Division to spare the members of a repeat of this incident by explaining expectations, unity, basic laws, powers and restrictions, and protections for both the Clan and Divisions. Some of those protections would prohibit "Operation: Bad Apples".

     One needs to understand that under Clan hierarchy and accepted policy... the Division leadership are ones who grow those Divisions and make the decisions to provide and serve the members of that Division. And, ultimately, through great leadership members of the Division become members of the Clan more and more. To promote and grow through fondness and friendship not only the Division but the Clan as well are the responsibilities of Division leadership. Now... through unilateral action, disregarding the limitations set on powers, we have lost a hand to save a finger. The hand being a Division and the finger being one person's view on things.

     FFXIV did not utilize the website. We of course know that Facebook, as much as I and many others despise it, is one of the most power communication platforms ever to be launched. Twitter is right up there as well at 140 characters at a time as a powerful communications platform. The current generation use websites to look at porn for the most part or to become liberals... families text one another sitting at tables instead of speaking to each other in some instances. There was supposed to be integration of multiple communication platforms on the website... that has not come to fruition. We were in process of integrating it on the Enjin host platform when it was decided that we will go back to the old host. Only through proper integration of these communication platforms will you achieve what you seek. That, or you ban everyone with a Facebook or Twitter account from using them for Clan business. Some of these players have no PC, but game from a console. Does it have a browser? Probably. They use their phones for VOIP. Does their phones have browsers? Probably.

     Apoktino got a little mouthy with Unicron in the past over a nomination to the SLC. Apparently, that was never completely forgotten. Forgiveness is a virtue which is way underutilized in the world today. Should we remember the bite? Absolutely! We should let that bite strengthen our resolve and take caution when reaching out to those individuals again. But should we let it fester? No... apologies serve as a dressing to prevent the inflammation and festering of arguments from spreading to other parts... or people. And, through forgiveness, we heal our wounds and pain. Apok and Blooded both got into arguments with me over a name change to the BDO Division. We forgave one another. I had to look back to the initial agrument in which I stated and now repeat..."Respect your Clan".

     I asked Unicron to wait, in regards to posting. due to my desire to mend friendships that have been in place for years, over a decade in some cases. The damage has been done. I remove myself from mediation in this matter.

     Seeing as how there was no communications to Apoktino or Sinosis with regards to non-compliance, that an entire Division was punished for this non-compliance instead of the leadership being counseled by the SLC, that the SLC was not utilized at all in any decision to remove the Division with the action taken being a unilateral one of executive action enacted by the SL with blatant disregard to protections, that recognized limitations to the those powers being disregarded, and a breach of trust... and not to mention the bonds of friendship being cast aside in this decision, the fact that the SLC was under-utilized and basically defunct due to lack of organization and meetings which would allow these issues to be addressed and ultimately taken up for correction or actions against failure to make those corrections, the fact that the leadership of that Division had mitigating circumstances in reference to surgeries and recovery periods of that leadership, and finally... the basic lack and total disregard for the members of that Division as a whole, as they suffered exile due to the perceived offenses of their leadership... has left me questioning the reasoning behind this operation. How long until the next Division is perceived to have committed an offense against the Clan Laws. Which, by the way, never existed in the first place because we never met to approve them. How long until I fall on the "Bad Apples" list?

     I had my guild meeting in BDO on Saturday evening. I discussed in length the happenings and such within the Clan as I usually do when noteworthy news occurs. I asked them their thoughts and opinions on what should happen. I am humbled to say that the response was that of where I go they shall follow. With that being said, I hereby officially announce the departure of the BDO Division from Obsidian Dragon. Together with my relinquishing of all positions and titles therein in regards to myself. I wish to leave on amicable terms.

     Hippie... I love you man. Thank you so much for all you have done for me. I am ashamed things turned out the way they have and I will someday hopefully get to return your kindness. Uni, you need to realize that as king, you must see the good in all things, not just the negatives. I trust that our arrangement about the work I provided will be kept. That will allow me to heal the one true wound I have, and contribute to the ongoing hardships I face through a custody battle. Be guarded of the company you keep and wise in who you raise to high positions. I post some things on here to shame myself and bring to light that which was my darkness. I leave you all with a something I wrote a long time ago.

"In this world there are many treasures. Coins that shine, gems that sparkle, items that others may covet. But, in time, coins lose their luster and the gems cease to sparkle. Blades break and shields shatter, leaving one at the mercy of their enemies. Know this, O'traveler, that one treasure shall never fade. Friendship! For a true friend will wade waist-deep into the blood of battlefields to save you. A true friend will pick you up whether you have fallen physically, mentally, or morally. A true friend will be there for you when all others have fled. So, you see traveler, there is no treasure like that of a true friend..." - Rhotan

Thank you all for your kindness.... perhaps someday soon we shall run across one another in the web or in a game. You are always welcome to stand beside of me and be my friend!

-Rhotan_
"Walk not behind me, I may not lead. Walk not in front of me, I may not follow. Just walk beside of me and be my friend." - Albert Camus

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Re: Speech pushed to Sunday
« Reply #4 on: October 09, 2017, 11:40:07 AM »
No, my friend, you left with honor, I salute you.
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« Reply #5 on: October 09, 2017, 12:15:24 PM »
During the time that I was playing Conan with Rhotan and Hippie(many years ago now), I was asked to join OD. Until recently this had been a peaceful place to be, a place to come home to to find my friends. It had been my understanding that friendship always came first here. Because of recent developments I am requesting to be removed from OD. Thanks for all the great years and great friends. To my friends I have not been in touch with recently Hippie, V, Bud, Platii, saying goodbye for now, hoping to catch up with you in the future.

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« Reply #6 on: October 09, 2017, 12:36:11 PM »
I never wished to see any of this happen and it saddens me greatly. Despite what some of you may think of me I have always loved OD and its members. I am not mad, in fact I feel loss more than anything right now. I wish you all the best and OD good fortune, I will never forget the friends made here despite my absence. If I am the aforementioned bad apple please know it was not my intent, I did the best I could. 
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« Reply #7 on: October 14, 2017, 04:23:45 AM »
I thought we had a process in place for removing divisions. Granted it was no longer a set of cast in stone guidelines, but we still followed it.

I have been really busy with work and it looks like I missed a big issue here. Can somebody fill me in on what went down?

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Re: Speech pushed to Sunday
« Reply #8 on: October 14, 2017, 09:34:08 AM »
I thought we had a process in place for removing divisions. Granted it was no longer a set of cast in stone guidelines, but we still followed it.

I have been really busy with work and it looks like I missed a big issue here. Can somebody fill me in on what went down?



Same for me...I'm not sure what happened but with two SLC's leaving because they disagreed with Uni is just silly...you could have overruled his actions.

Blooded you could have called or texted.. It's never good to see friends leave. It's never going to stop anyone from gaming together.


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« Reply #9 on: November 16, 2017, 06:46:19 PM »
I don't get much time to play these days but I have very fond memories of OD.  I started playing Age of Conan and was recruited by Rhotan.  For several years I enjoyed our adventures in Hyboria.  I was never an elite player, I don't know if I even qualified as above average but in OD that didn't matter.  As long as we were good company it was good times.  Funcom's neglect of AoC pushed a lot of players away and we struggled to get raid teams together for T2s.  However, we moved on.  I once again joined Rhotan, and Hippie, in SWTOR.  I really enjoyed SWTOR and I played it up until about a month ago.  But, OD pulled out of SWTOR, a few years earlier and sailed onto Final Fantasy.  I tried FF for a few weeks but never got into it, same with BDO.  Right now, I am currently gameless but I have been thinking about ESO.  My rig is pretty old and I think I may need an upgrade, but I digress.

Even though I haven't been in touch with any members of OD in, maybe, a year.  I think the last time was a brief conversation about FF on Ventrilo, or maybe even TS3.  However, I have always stopped by the OD website(s) over the years every now and again to read about what was happening in the chance that I might find inspiration to hop into whatever was "the game". 

I was saddened to read about the BDO division and the challenges facing the guild.  However things turn out, I would like to let everyone in OD know that the time I spent in AoC and SWTOR raiding or just bumming around were some of the most genuine experiences I've had online.  The kindness, patience, and fellowship that was shown to me by OD has not and cannot be replicated by any other gaming guild.  For that, I thank you and I truly hope that OD can be, in the future, what it was to me in the past.

To quote Rhotan, "...perhaps someday soon we shall run across one another in the web or in a game. You are always welcome to stand beside of me and be my friend!"

Hassan (aka Hassania)

 

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